But, I mean, Max suggested this.
If you want to,
you don't have to do anything.
Because we always put ourselves in the pit
of, you know, pain and sorrow.
But, no,
Max went ahead and spoke about how
specifically even the Zona movement
Commissioner's passed an ordinance that if
a board is not functional in breaking the
law, like the zoning board is,
maybe they shouldn't get funding.
Yeah, yeah,
you might suggest if you want to.
Or, you know, I thought, well, you know,
I could bring, like, backup information,
but no.
No, left it in the printer.
OK, everybody, please stand.
Most gracious Heavenly Father,
we do thank you for this day and
for your many blessings, Father,
that you've given us.
And thank you for Jesus who died on
the cross so we can have life eternal.
And Father,
let's thank you for all the people that
come out for this mission meeting today.
Father,
just give us clear minds and open our
hearts to what's best for the county.
Let this go with us now.
May God direct us.
In Jesus' name I pray.
Amen.
Thank you.
Second.
We have a motion by the child.
Second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Thank you.
Any comments?
Mr. Mayor?
We had some pretty heinous things happen
in our country this last week,
including the fact that spam calls have
not been eliminated.
The first thing I want to do is
call for unity in our county.
I am very distraught about what happened
last week, as a lot of people are.
And so for the first minute of my
time, starting now,
I would like to just offer one minute
of silence for Charlie Kirk and his public
execution in Arlington.
And for the remaining time,
I just want to call for everyone in
Washington County to do the right thing
and to keep our eye on the prize.
This is not our eternal resting place.
Heaven is our eternal home.
And I hope to see you all there.
In the meantime,
I would like to hold people accountable to
the laws of this county and to the
laws of this state,
specifically with regard to the boards.
I'm now on the Planning Commission,
and I am earnestly wanting to make sure
That the planning commission along with
the other boards in this county are
operating legally by the spirit and letter
of the law.
And I propose that if a board,
whether the one that I'm on or any
of the others.
If they're operating illegally,
then they should not be funded.
And so I would call that we.
that we look very very carefully at what
we're doing in this county to make sure
that it indeed aligns with the
constitution federally the constitution of
the state and of course any local statutes
any state statutes that are not in
contravention of both the federal and
state constitutions but most of all i'm
just calling for common sense i love this
country i love the people of this country
in this county
i want to make sure that we are
all working together towards a common goal
which is a better life for all of
us and being left alone to live our
lives in the way that we see fit
as long as we're not hurting anybody else
thank you thank you thank you james
In regards to the art department?
No?
Okay.
Any approval on the minutes of August
twenty-twenty-first and September second
of twenty-five?
Everybody ready?
So moved.
Second.
Child amendment in motion.
Tony second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Motion to hear it.
Group of clans in favor?
Had a chance to look them over.
The adoption of the ADA transition plan,
Title VI.
Yes,
you just had the public hearing on it
at the last meeting.
Any questions about it?
I have no questions.
Any approvals of the ADA plan?
I'll make a motion.
Second.
I'll second.
All in favor say aye.
this agenda item to eliminate the
groundskeeper position pursuant to a
memorandum of understanding will be for
aid from the fair board.
The county is,
or have the ability to allow for this
position.
Unfortunately,
it is the county's decision based on the
fairgrounds recommendation whether or not
to
Based on the fair board's recommendation,
this is not an easy decision,
but we have to respect the wishes of
the fair board.
And I want to remind everyone of what
Mr. Shell said in his opening prayer,
open our hearts to do what is best
for our county.
That is our only goal.
Based on that,
I'll make a motion to eliminate the
fairgrounds position.
Is there anything you want to say?
Doug, I've got stuff to say.
Doug, I've got stuff I want to say.
I know every year,
us an obstacle and then from July we
moved it up to June because it was
too hot in July and you don't have
a job.
I don't know that that gave us anything
except to make this wasn't quite produced
enough.
And we asked these volunteers to come in
and donate time and effort to the
community and to the county.
I commend you for everything you do.
And not just you,
but the ones in the past that I've
heard up with and knew about.
And it's always an obstacle getting ready.
I can't condemn Andy Lee.
I think he's done a good job.
I think the world does err on Tuesday.
For the county, I want to commend you.
And with that being said,
if this is your wishes,
and you think you've got a different route
that can save money and make it better,
I have to go along with it.
I may have said too much,
but that's the way I feel.
So if that's your wishes,
then we'll try it that way and see
what happens.
But we know something can change if we
don't work.
I mean,
there's a few questions that need to be
answered.
Are you ready to start right now?
It's effective immediately.
Well, I can't go along with it.
That's what it is.
That's what it means to me.
I mean... Well,
I think it's for its position itself.
I mean,
that's another thing that's not being
worked out.
So... All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Yes?
Aye.
Okay.
Here it was.
All right, quick update.
The twenty twenty five commuting crossing
taping has been completed.
All went well.
That's compliments on a good job.
We have received one of our new tenants.
We've had work for three years.
So let's have another one possibly next
week.
And then about a month out,
the third one should be completed.
So we'll have it before the snow starts.
As you know,
we started the process working on the
Radcliffe Road Highway one fifty
intersection down there.
I've been in contact with MDOT and HWC
Engineering.
I've got a contract here from HWC to
perform the topographical survey
permitting the design, erosion control,
cost estimates, utility coordination,
and bidding services.
I see a signature for that.
Is that required by CAF?
It's just a major intersection
improvement.
You know,
by the time it's said and done,
the intersection right at the highway goes
twice as wide.
There's a very poor turn when you consider
that.
And we've got a semi-turnover trying to
deliver goods.
So everybody wouldn't be able to go
through.
And again,
that's a project where HINZOP would be
involved in.
They're stepping away.
That's the HINZOP project we're paying
for.
Thank you.
It's a little higher to go back up.
Estimated construction on this is twenty
point seven,
but we're going to do everything we can
to try to hurry the process up and
get it done in twenty point six,
but the initial deadline was twenty seven,
so twenty six is our hope,
but if it is twenty seven,
it's not going to be a shocker.
Bridge thirty nine.
If we go to the next meeting,
October seven,
so keep an eye out for those.
And next up,
I have an inbound grant date.
As you know, every so often,
we have a road inbound grant date.
I've got a few of those to go
over here.
And this is where I have to send
a copy of the minutes from the state,
so we'll have to be pretty close to
having this,
and keep you going with the numbers.
No problem.
First one's Middle District Road, IR-G-A.
We need to correct that.
It's currently one point nine zero three
and we will be correcting that to one
point eight two two.
That's a reduction of point zero eight one
and that is the dead end section along
the west end.
We've not maintained that for twenty
years,
but it appears in the Indian Forest Hills
Senate out behind Cavendishburg.
It's a road that jumps between two roads
and again,
That's the first one.
These two go together,
and I'll start with the one I want
to take out at the end of the
morning.
It is John's Lane.
These are both off of C-C-C, yeah,
towards Arlingtonburg.
john's lane ir-six-twenty-eight currently
is zero point two six four five we
need to direct that to zero removing the
inventory reason being these two roads are
on highway sixty-six side by side and
almost identical one of them we take care
of them one of them we don't and
they've got a foot block old unity
cemetery road is beside this and we do
maintain that and it doesn't appear in the
gis or inventory so we need to fight
old unity cemetery road
In the distance of zero point two four
five.
Zero point what?
Zero point two four five.
Did that stop at the cemetery?
Yeah.
And you know where the other one is?
There are two side to side roads and
somehow a long line got flip-flopped and
the one we don't take care of goes
up and the only one we do is
get it straightened off.
The next one is Cedar Lane.
Cedar Lane shows up twice.
We're getting paid for two miles of Cedar
Lane,
and we only actually maintain one mile.
I'll start with the one we need to
take out.
It is IR, let's hold on,
I'm getting confused.
It is IR-Cedar Lane.
It is currently one point one four seven.
We need that corrected to zero.
And move to the inventory.
is Cedar Lane, IR- six-one-seven,
which shows up at zero point
seven-nine-five-nine,
and we got corrected to one point zero
five-five-four.
That's off of Highway one-fifty,
and if you look at GIS mapping,
there's two identical roads.
One is the correct length in the wrong
location,
and the other one shows up as the
incorrect length in the right location.
Where the one shows up there,
there never has been a road,
it's a fence road.
So it's just,
that's what I hate about the internet.
Everybody finds information on the
internet and runs with it.
And, you know,
the internet's only as smart as the people
who put the information in.
So what was that IR number on the
second one?
The second one, IR-Six-One-Seven.
This is the zero point seven nine five
nine.
We'll need that corrected to one point
zero five five four.
Are both of these either lanes in close
proximity to one another?
I have a map here to show you
because I know it would be a little
confusing.
They're not on separate sides of the camp.
They entered it in directly.
This is the one we're taking out,
which never was a road.
And this is the one we do take
care of.
So this is when they entered it.
And I've got two separate hour numbers,
so we'll take one hour more.
Dogwood Valley.
Dogwood Valley is off of Cedar Lane.
We need to add it to the inventory.
Zero point four one one seven.
That's the one that got paid several years
ago and we've been maintaining it since so
we're not going to be getting paid for
it.
Okay.
And that is the last.
I'll be glad to go over with Kyrie
because that's a lot of numbers to get
rid of.
all i've got unless you have some
questions i have questions this is coming
out that has been since the beginning of
time recently a couple months ago daniel
bland the surveyor here he informed us the
fact that i wasn't aware of i had
my suspicions that
than any other county that he's ever
worked in in his life.
And I'm not gonna pick on anybody.
We know, uh, thirty,
forty years ago when the farm economy was
bad, people started selling off farms,
and people came in and put these so-called
subdivisions in.
Naturally, they weren't done right.
Uh,
they weren't brought up to county
standards.
that would allow us to someday take them
over as roads.
There was nothing being done,
very little gravel put on, no ditches,
no culverts.
They just created subdivisions.
And we literally have hundreds and
hundreds of these.
With the housing issues,
these are coming up for sale more
frequently now.
We're getting into this ugly animal and I
really don't even want to talk about it
because I know it's an issue with you
and it's an issue for everybody because it
sells additional money.
But the only thing I'm suggesting is,
and I think we've talked about this
before,
as far as taking some of these over,
someday we will have to.
So my plan is
don't go hog wild but you know we
could just adopt one a year or every
two years some of these subdivisions that
have been brought up to spec or were
put in reasonably well and already have
ditches and already have culverts and say
a subdivision that's uh let's say it's a
mile long and it is twenty feet wide
and say there's several residents there,
because that's what we're getting into.
We're getting into complaints from school
bus drivers,
getting into complaints from mailmen,
and then you talk about emergency
services.
So I know it's something, Rick,
you don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear it either,
but I do get a lot of calls
on that.
If we do one a year or one
every two years,
then probably all we're going to do is
get someone else upset who didn't get
their road paid but at least we would
be making an attempt or if we can
just come up with a plan for the
future because a few i can add to
that a few obstacles we deal with there
like you say we do get several calls
first like you said which ones do you
do which ones don't you do
offer a pretty in there because they've
been coming for years and we say the
same thing and their deeds say it on
there when the last lot sold the county
will take it over i don't know who
put that in there another issue is the
contractors the ones that are building uh
subdivisions now they are paying them if
they want them adopted the youngest couple
out there are off on sixty so it's
not really fair to them they paid for
their asphalt and
Anybody can pay for a culvert,
anybody can pay to have a pitch jug.
Asphalt's always the whole buck because
it's an astronomical number.
And I did make a list here a
few years ago.
South of Salem, there are fifty private,
I don't mean the Atlanta subdivisions that
are what they are,
and there's fifty of them.
Now you go in there and figure mileage,
it's astronomical.
Like if we start down this road,
there's going to be more manpower,
there's going to be more trucks.
i promise you a mile of road out
in the middle of nowhere causes you very
little trouble a mile of room in a
subdivision everybody's got a mailbox a
leaf up there's something i regret i hate
subdivisions i don't think subdivisions
should have anything to do with coming out
subdivisions subdivision that's just my
stance it's a truth and i mean it
could it's solving one problem creates
another right you got your school buses
which are bigger
It's a nice spot.
There's just nowhere to stop.
I fall back on the pile of snow.
You can cover five or ten miles of
road in the amount of time it took
you to go in one subdivision.
It's more than just taking care of the
subdivision.
I know that makes people mad,
but that seems to be my specialty,
facts are facts.
We don't have any business in there.
I don't disagree with you.
Anyway, conversation for another day.
Quick update.
Out there at the office,
the framer's putting all the metal on the
inside of the big room,
getting it ready for the electricians
later on this week.
They're aware of it,
so they'll probably start on the inside
doing all the condos and outlets and such
for the conference room and the office.
If you've been out there,
you've seen the mechanic's garage go up.
They have started framing on the inside of
the mechanic's garage.
insulator will be you're getting done
yesterday or you got a little bit today
to finish on the mccann's drive uh they
have already started putting the metal up
on the inside on the ceilings and they'll
just have to get them to office they'll
work back to the mccann's drive which will
open up all the subs online also
They did a sidewalk in front of the
office, the fuel lanes and the fuel shed,
and then they'll start working on the sign
shed and truck lane too.
Just kind of work our way around,
stay out of each other's way.
Site utilities,
the electrical got an inspection yesterday
and an approval.
So if they have to drive another ground
rod,
Pretty well done with the site electrical
here today or tomorrow.
That's on the primary?
On primary, on the inspection, yes.
Secondary, they're finishing that up also.
Have they pulled the water back to the
shelf?
No, sir.
And...
Last time I was out here,
have you poured slabs for the generators?
Not yet.
Basically, coming up next quarter,
we're trying to get some other things for
the trickling to the sign shed.
We've got our dimensions on the generator
pads,
and we're going to incorporate that into
the sidewalk and off the back of the
building.
And also the mechanics drive home.
because I think they did keep the aprons
outside the doors,
so we'll just extend that for that
generator pad.
And then on the ADA,
you're compliant with the ADA,
is that front going to have a ramp?
I believe so.
A way in?
Yes.
Okay.
It'll need to be planned.
Okay.
Yes.
And did the craters were supposed to start
this week or last week when it was
open?
They started,
they came back last Thursday afternoon,
was at the mechanic's garage.
So I'll have them concentrate on those
two,
and then when they're at the mechanic's
garage in the office,
and as soon as they get done,
they do have everything for the salt,
the mixed salt building, the trusses.
They got everything for it,
so I'll concentrate on where I got more
subs for now,
and then they'll jump onto the salt bed.
Also started some site grading to get
ready for laptop.
So we're just kind of working around
everybody that's out there.
Okay, two-finger, all right.
Okay, we know what kind.
Make sure everything's in there.
Okay.
Any questions?
Are you on schedule?
Yes, sir.
And it's the key, September the first.
Mother Nature still complies.
Closer to that construction could be way
out there.
All right.
Thank you, Paul.
All right.
Anyone?
Still not picking up.
Can I run?
Captain, do you have anything to say?
Yes, I do.
I don't want to open up a can
of worms,
but I just think that Randy got a
raw deal here without talking to him,
but you need to look closer at the
fairgrounds.
Who's running it?
Who don't want to put out money to
get things done?
And I don't think that
Not in due diligence,
but I guess you went along with the
fair board,
and even though they're volunteers,
they're not doing their job.
They're letting one guy run the
fairgrounds,
and that's the treasurer and the vice
president,
and the president don't have no say-so.
So that's all I've got to say.
I think you can be elected,
or elected on the fair board, says it.
independent corporation we simply fund
them to have a county fair every year
they have nothing to do with the county
other than that and as you are so
frequently telling me all the time what
you just said is your opinion thank you
Motion to adjourn.
Got a motion by Todd?
Second.
Only second?