But I don't think that it's going to
be a situation where, for like next year,
if you don't pass it,
I don't think it will kick in.
Right.
And that's kind of what I'm thinking.
That's what was specified to me earlier.
But I just want to get the info
out so that everybody can start talking
about it.
You don't have to make a decision right
now.
That's what we said.
We called it on September.
But the hiring process is going to be
worth it.
It is worth it.
Well, right.
From, you know, it just depends on who.
Well, he got a contract.
You know, so.
You know, it's just like this.
You know, you know.
it doesn't
It says it in three different pages,
and I found that in their question,
and I was like, okay.
I think we already got it.
You know,
you're not getting back a hundred percent
of what you put into it.
And if you're not part of this other
PSC plan,
you'd probably have to follow your money
back in,
because they did get it based on that
portion.
If your county is not using that plan,
you get different percentages to go to
different things from the real tax that
you designate for your roads.
So you're going to get .
Yes.
And that's what I want.
I know, you know,
once you start getting candy, like candy.
Ready?
It's hard to give it up.
You know, why send money up to climate?
They've got departments that are so many.
Seventy-five thousand are
non-comprehensive.
They know we're participating.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars from
boards that say legal.
And we have been in the end.
Okay, we'll call the meeting to order,
commissioners.
Okay, would everybody please stand?
We'll say a pledge and a prayer.
your God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Let us pray.
Heavenly Father,
we come before you today thanking you for
the many blessings you bestowed upon us
and knowing that your will shall be done.
Lord God,
bless those who serve us and protect us.
In his precious name we pray, amen.
Thank you.
Approval of the agenda.
Make a motion to approve the agenda.
Tots made a motion.
Daniel second.
Second.
Tony second.
Public comments.
Lucy Britton, is she here?
Yep.
Right on the front row.
There we go.
I'm always ready.
I've got an April meeting timekeeping.
I would ask before you start my time
to let folks know that I talked with
Randy Lee this morning.
His wife is in the hospital,
so he can't come and do his three
minutes.
He sent me a written statement to read
into the record.
May I take my three minutes and then
take Randy's as well?
And one thing that our citizens have asked
me to ask all of you is to
get your microphones right in front of
your faces,
because we have a lot of people who
are working right now,
and the working public is not able to
see these meetings.
So they really need to concentrate on
having our microphones in front of us.
So before I get started and the timer
stops or starts,
can we all make sure that our microphones
are going to pick this up for the
listeners at home?
All right, we've got that set.
It's like Kyra and April.
If you folks want to talk,
it doesn't look like it's going to be
picked up, Tony.
I think we're sitting pretty good.
Okay, April, you got the timer ready?
All right, here we go.
Air, water.
Those are the two most important things
that a human body needs, air and water.
And yet here we sit in a town
without clean water.
We are literally poisoning the citizens
every time they open up their tap.
And I'd like to remind you all that
your skin is the largest organ on your
body.
And all of those chemicals,
when you take your shower,
when you take your bath,
when you put your precious babies in a
bathtub, what's happening?
They're getting poisoned by the water.
Now,
politicians should have a couple of
things.
Stepping up into the role of a politician
and putting yourself out as a public
servant means that there should be radical
honesty
complete transparency,
and should be held to a higher standard.
Our egos have to be put aside for
the good of the citizens and taxpayers,
and certainly no retaliation.
But I've been reading Facebook recently,
and what I've seen is a lot of
retaliation on this water issue.
Specifically with the Salem water fiasco,
the mayor of Salem claimed that the water
was okay,
and then Randy Lee called the next day
to the exact water companies that the
mayor claimed was having the exact same
issues that we were having here in Salem.
And Randy shared with me that during those
conversations,
the other water companies said that they
were not having these problems.
And so now we're sitting here at August
thirteenth,
where Randy got a letter saying his
position was going to be eliminated in ten
days, by the twenty-third,
and that's one of the things on the
agenda today.
So it seemed to me that there's a
little bit of retaliation there.
and we need to be very very careful
to put our feelings aside when somebody
does the work to make sure that the
citizens are taken care of they should get
an attaboy they should be i'm sorry
evidently i don't know how technology
works um and when i spoke with randy
this morning one of his big concerns now
that he's sitting in the hospital with a
wife who passed out and hit her head
this morning
is that the elimination of his position
actually affects his housing.
So for those of you who aren't aware,
the groundskeeper lives on the Fairgrounds
property.
And that means that Randy's housing
situation as well as his insurance is at
risk.
And he's right over there with a wife
who may have traumatic brain injury from
what happened this morning.
I'm gonna say it's probably because of the
stress of dealing with everything that
they've been dealing with.
Now,
Randy mentioned to me that a consultant
has been put forward to replace him or
as an idea to replace him.
But Randy only makes twenty thousand a
year and even if you count the small
utility advantage that he gets,
it's about twenty six thousand a year.
Now Randy described to me all of the
things that he does and that he has
to do before and after groups come in
and the amount of mowing is just
incredible for that property over there.
I would say that he's currently
undercompensated.
I cannot believe
that anybody would work for as little
money as he's making.
That's literally four hundred a week.
That's ten times that.
Okay,
so now I can go to Randy's time?
So you're starting again?
Okay, very good.
I can't believe that he works for so
little money.
So now that his wife is over there,
possibly with a traumatic brain injury,
she's dealing with this.
And let me pull up this photo here
so I can read.
So this is what Randy
sent over to me to go ahead and
read into the record.
Hi, my name is Randy Lee.
I'm the fairground attendant and have been
ever since to the state.
I've never been written up or reprimanded
for anything or any kind of disciplinary
action.
And on August thirteenth,
I received a letter from the fair board
stating my position would be eliminated as
of August twenty third and that I would
have sixty days to remove all my personal
belongings.
I feel this is an unjust and untimely
decision made by the Fair Board.
As a county employee,
I'm curious on how a non-elected board
would have such authority such as this.
At this point,
I feel that there is more weighing purpose
behind this revengeful, tactical decision.
Do I believe this is a political move?
Absolutely, one hundred percent I do.
I know there's certain Fair Board members
that don't like me,
and on top of all that,
certain authority figures has made me feel
insecure in my job.
With this coming to a head on March
third,
I received a threatening and intimidating
phone call from Commissioner Todd Ewing,
which led to a state police investigation
where two other witnesses and Mr.
Ewing and myself were interrogated by
state police detective,
which led to pending intimidation charges.
At this time,
I feel this is the reasoning behind this
latest play in authoritarian tactics.
I would like for you all to record
this decision
And I believe that Mr.
Ewan should be excluded from any decisions
pertaining to these topics while these
charges are pending.
And again,
these are Randy's words online that he
sent me over.
So, you know,
I think it's really clear that as a
county,
we need to make sure that we hold
our politicians accountable and that our
politicians come before us with,
as I said,
radical honesty and complete transparency.
I'm on the plan commission now,
and I invite any member of the public
to send me a message.
to call me, send me DMs, texts,
whatever way you feel is the best way
to get ahold of me,
to not only hold me accountable and make
sure that I'm getting you the information
that you need,
but also to bring the issues before me
that fall into the planning commission.
Now for those things that don't fall into
the planning commission,
this is a hard thing for me to
say because we're sitting here at nine,
ten a.m.
when most people are at work.
This is another thing that people have
complained about over and over is the
timing of this particular meeting.
And that it should be changed to a
time when normal citizens with normal jobs
have the ability to come and actually see
their representatives in person.
So I think I'm probably about up with
my time.
What I read again were Randy's words,
not mine.
And I just really hope we can do
better as a county.
I can't think of anything that is more
important than clean water.
Can you?
Do you need a motion to approve them?
Yeah, motion to approve minutes.
August fifth, twenty twenty-five.
That both of them are just one.
August fifth, twenty twenty-five.
I second.
Tony second.
Clamps, payroll, any questions?
Have a motion.
Motion to approve the claims and payroll.
Second.
I'm sure this is what everybody's here
for, wheel tax discussion.
You skipped one.
You skipped one, Phil.
Which one?
The WTH.
Well,
when did I get our way in here?
Access for collegiate WTH approval for the
maps.
We do it every year.
Gives them access to our maps.
Anybody got an objection to it?
again they can't didn't hear what you was
talking about okay i'm sorry every year
wth asks to use our maps that the
county pays for that they use your
reference points off of we always give
them consent to use our map so we
don't get an extra charge and this is
just a motion to give them access to
the county maps can i take that motion
Todd's made a motion.
Twenty-second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Okay, now, wheel tax.
Yeah,
I passed out some information about that.
Which you'll see on the little blue sheet
that you have in front of you there.
That's from AIM,
which is Accelerate Indiana Municipality.
Sorry.
Just passed out some information to the
council commissioners.
You have it there.
I have some other copies if anybody wants
one after the meeting's over.
But it's just a breakdown of what the
state is doing with this wheeled vehicle
excise tax,
which basically states that town or
municipal wheel tax and vehicle excise tax
are local options available to any
municipality with a population of five
thousand or above.
So that is the nuts and bolts of
it.
How this all started was the state has
said that if you don't have this in
place,
then your community crossings grants could
possibly go away.
Now what the timeline is for that,
we're not really for sure.
We've made several calls to the state
legislators and
It looks like it wouldn't affect the
twenty six,
but it could affect twenty seven with
those community crossing grants.
So it's just a discussion that we needed
to have.
If it was something that we were going
to try to pass,
then it would have to be done by
September the first in order for us to,
you know,
get that into play for twenty twenty six.
So mainly this was a discussion I wanted
to have with everyone just so that the
information was out there and everybody
knew what we were looking at here,
what we may have to do down the
road to be eligible for those grants.
Can we not put it on the ballot
in November to be voted on?
That is something right now,
it's just discussion.
But like I said,
they did put a timeline on it.
If you wanted it to kick in for
twenty-six,
you'd have to have it passed by September
the first.
You're talking twenty-seven,
so we would have plenty of time to
do that.
Yeah, we'll get to that.
Right now,
this is just to get the information out
to the council commissioners so that
everyone knows.
This is what they're trying to get us
to adopt.
Should people know about this first?
Ma'am,
I just want to say that this is
not an official public comment, period.
and even during a public comment.
And I'm just saying we're going to follow
regular procedure and if this comes to the
point where the council has an ordinance
in front of it where it is going
to actually take a vote which no vote
is happening today then I believe that
it's their intent to take a public comment
but right now we're not going to let
people just shout out during the meetings
And so we're going to just follow the
normal procedures,
let the council and commissioners have
their discussion,
and then when there's time for a public
comment, we'll let everyone know.
Well,
I think I could just shed a little
light on this.
Go right ahead, Rick.
You're involved with the community
council.
Some of the terminology kind of gets
confusing.
I know we deal with community crossings
and after several years,
I think we've got a pretty good feel
for it.
The state in twenty twenty seven will be
coming out with a new grant.
It's Lane Mile Direct Distribution,
referred to as LMDD.
That will affect our community crossings.
They're very similar and related,
but our eligibility for community
crossings won't change and won't in the
foreseeable future,
at least through twenty-nine.
This LMDD,
you do have to have a wheel tax
to be eligible for it.
The one thing you have to keep in
mind when trying to get that grant
you have a one million dollar cap
regardless of which grant you go for.
Community Crossings,
the maximum is back down to one million
dollars.
The LMDD is one million dollars.
You can't get one billion from each.
So if we go like we have been
for the last seven,
eight years and get one million dollars
from Community Crossings,
which you do not have to have a
wheel tax for,
then the LMDD would be useless to us
because we would not be able to draw
from it.
I just want to clarify that.
So there is still a way for us
to get a million dollar grant which is
the maximum without having a wheel tax.
Thank you.
I actually have a question for you.
I've read through the bill and there is
some parts in the bill that there's an
acronym that states if your county uses
this type of surveying of roads that is
that one what you're talking about with
the different grants?
So only criteria for the pacer pacer pacer
p-a-s-e-r is that what you're talking
about?
We have to use that for community
crossings as well.
It's part of your pavement asset
management plan.
We have to have them surveyed and graded.
Okay and also for the the LMDD if
we are interested in that which it's kind
of redundant in my opinion.
The paperwork shows a conservative
estimate of August thirty first twenty
twenty six is when we need to put
that in.
So we have a full year
before we need to do that,
so there's no need to get excited at
them.
Right.
Well,
and piggybacking on what you said with the
PACER thing,
I kind of didn't see the point of
it because to me it seemed redundant to
do the will tax
When it looks to me like they're putting
stiffer stipulations on how much you're
going to get and harder to get a
million dollars out of that by
implementing the wheel tax from what I can
read online.
You know,
if we decide to have a wheel tax,
we have a wheel tax,
but I just want it to be for
the right reasons and everybody
understands why we have it.
Okay.
But it's not qualified for community
council.
And that was one reason why we wanted
to have this discussion today,
was to get the information out there to
make sure we totally understood.
Thanks Rick.
Thank you Rick.
So as you all know,
with some of the things that have been
coming down from the state level,
there's a lot of gray area and that's
why we wanted to get that information out
before we get to that point.
um any other comments can i ask something
sure you're taxing all vehicles how about
atomic well we're not to that point yet
where we're passing i don't disagree with
you um but we're not to the point
where we're
ready to do anything at all.
This is not something we're voting on
today or that we have to do today,
as Rick just mentioned.
Then another thing,
they could have rolled out on it,
should not be running none of their women
on the road with metal wheels.
They do it all the time and the
cops won't be nothing to them.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the,
I'm not really, uh, uh,
study too much about that or how that's
handled.
But, you know, this one,
this was just something new that come down
from the state that we want to get
the information out.
So that's what the purpose of this was
this morning was to get that out,
just to see what we have to do
moving forward.
So that's kind of what that's for this
morning.
Sure, I just want to click.
I don't think anyone wants a wheel packs
on this council.
It's just we were considering it.
If we were going to lose the community
crossing,
the grant was the only reason we were
even considering it.
So I just want to clarify that it's
not that we're wanting the tax because.
Most people in this board are not willing
to add any extra tax unless we absolutely
have to.
But the state keeps pushing the majority
of this stuff down to the local level,
unfortunately,
and forcing us to do certain things.
But it sounds like, and thank you, Rick,
for explaining that,
that maybe we won't have to do that.
So we're not wanting to do this unless
we absolutely have to, I guess.
It doesn't look like there's a lot of
incentives to do it.
Yeah.
The bill's very gray.
Yeah.
From what I could tell,
it's like if you do do it,
there's a chance you're not going to get
one hundred percent of your pool back
because most of it's going to go to
fund the roads in Marion County,
which I don't think is fair to the
taxpayers of Washington County to
implement that to begin with.
And that's our consideration.
Why should we pass something that we all
have to pay that someone else benefits
from?
That is not what this council wants to
do for the taxpayers of Washington County.
We just wanted to get that information
out.
Like I said, after the meeting,
anybody is welcome.
We can give you this paper.
Come down.
It was on their website.
So we can give those out to you.
So it kind of explains a little bit
about it.
But like I said,
there's a lot of gray.
It wasn't our intent to come in here
this morning and pass a will tax.
That's the last thing we want to do.
But we also want to make sure that
we have good roads.
So with Rick's help,
we've been able to secure these community
crossing grants over the years,
and it's really helped us out here in
Washington County with the miles of roads
that we have.
Without that, Rick,
how many miles of road would we not
be able to pay?
We've crossed the hundred mile mark of
community crossing pay.
Right.
It's substantial.
So yeah,
this was just to get that information out.
But like Todd said,
it's not something we definitely wanted to
do.
It was just something we needed to get
the information out to everyone so that
they had it.
So that's kind of where we're at this
morning.
Commissioners,
do you have any questions on that?
I give you the paper.
No, I appreciate what you've said.
I appreciate what Rick said because this
was a fear we all had.
It was everything's being shoved down.
I've talked to surrounding counties.
They're having the same thing.
I talked to Clark County yesterday.
They was in a fear.
Clark County, I think,
is talking about passing something,
but they're calling it something else.
But there's a lot of confusion right now.
And like everybody's agreed,
none of us want to pay more taxes.
But we definitely don't want to lose any
more than we have to to keep the
upkeep of our roads.
So I appreciate you guys coming in here.
it will be your decision but we have
to have to be involved too but trying
to find out nobody seems to know on
this of what is happening so i appreciate
all your due diligence of doing it
And also on top of that, Phil,
for transparency for our taxpayers and
people that are here,
you mentioned they were calling it
something else.
There's other people calling it a user fee
instead of a wheel tax.
So that kind of disguises that.
So when you have all these gray areas
and we use this verbiage instead of this,
that just has raised cause concern from
all of us.
So just to be transparent, Lucy,
so you guys all understand that and
everybody out there.
Okay.
Thanks for the clarification, Greg.
John, do you have anything?
Yes, I'd like to echo what Mr.
Armstrong said.
I don't want anybody to get the impression
that anybody wants to raise taxes.
I think we're taxed to death the way
it is.
But this is being forced upon us.
The state gives with one hand and they
take with another.
It seems like they are putting a lot
of this burden back on the counties.
So their coffers look better.
So they're so their bottom line looks
better.
That's really nothing we can do about that
except complain to our state legislators.
I would like to take the liberty to
answer this gentleman's question back here
about the horse-drawn vehicle fees.
Currently,
they're sixty-seven dollars and fifty
cents a year.
That could very well happen.
That comes down to enforcement,
so I'm not going to get into that.
But that's how much it is,
sixty seven dollars and fifty cents.
and for anyone out there who wants to
know the house bill that the real tax
stuff is being discussed in i encourage
everyone to read it it's boring but it's
informative um it's house bill fourteen
sixty one dot zero eight thank you
appreciate that anyone else all right you
can move forward thank you okay
Elimination of groundskeeper position.
Board,
I just want to clarify and point out
that there is a memorandum of
understanding between the commissioners
and the Washington County Farmers and
Merchant Fair Inc.
Fair Board that allows for the county to
hire a groundskeeper to assist
the fairgrounds but the fair board
ultimately had the control over that
groundskeeper's daily activities and
decisions regarding its employment
including retention up to and including
termination.
So my understanding is they're going to
change the structure of the fair
You might understand that, right?
Subcontractor down.
Yeah, that's that's the intention.
Nobody likes it when the position is
eliminated.
It's basically their decision.
We have to honor their decision.
Everyone on the fair board.
They work very hard to try to maintain
the fairgrounds.
They're not compensated in any way shape
or form and it's getting harder and harder
to find people to serve.
So this is their decision.
We have to honor their wishes.
Based on that,
I'll make a motion to eliminate
the groundskeeper's position.
I got a question.
Who's going to pay the difference?
Is there a difference between what we pay
the groundskeeper now versus the subject
now?
All that.
We stand to save probably close to ten
thousand dollars.
Where'd them numbers come from, may I ask?
Where did they come from?
Yeah, I mean, I just, I've never seen,
you know, seen them in numbers or nothing.
I think it's need to be
If we're going to put the bill then
we need to more thoroughly investigate
that.
The mowing aspect is probably going to
cost the county twenty thousand dollars a
year.
That's mowing, weeding, spraying.
Where's these numbers coming from?
The mowing was already included in the
MOU.
That's separate from the groundskeeper.
We take care of that.
Right.
The county is always.
Chemicals.
Mowing.
Not the groundskeeper.
Correct.
So you're saying the county's got to
continue paying that or how's that going
to work?
Mowing is part of the MOU.
That is the responsibility of the county.
That's not changing.
Well I think before we decide on this
we need
We need some hard numbers or whatnot.
I mean,
we've got the council members sitting
here.
They're the ones paying for it.
You ain't going to get the ground payments
at that place for twenty thousand dollars
a year.
I own a landscaping company.
I wouldn't do it.
I mean, seriously,
I used to run a lawn care business.
There's no way for twenty thousand dollars
a year to take care of that property.
Okay, did you make a motion?
This is not a time for public comment.
This is the business of the commissioners.
I'll second his motion on doing it to
subcontract it out.
So now we can discuss it once it's
properly moved and seconded.
I know Brad's over here with his mouth
open.
I would sure like to hear his opinion.
Is it okay if the council asks a
question?
Can the council ask a question?
Have we got quotes from new contractors?
Did the fair board turn that over?
That's what I'm asking.
Verbal.
This year, great clarification,
did the county not have to go over
and mow and spray this year?
We do brush cut over there.
We're limited on what we can do due
to the MBH restricted funds,
but we do go over there before the
fair and stuff and knock out the weeks.
Right, and help out.
But it's been getting harder and harder
every year to get the fair put on.
And this year we had another thing.
We had the state fire marshal come in.
A lot of stuff that hadn't been corrected
over the years had to be made up
so that we could put the fair on.
We've had to fight with that this year.
Yeah,
I don't believe that's a problem with the
groundskeeper's job.
If somebody is overseeing If somebody is
overseeing the facility and you see
something needs to be corrected it should
have been corrected before now Extra
expense to run this county things have
been overlooked I agree now and this being
said right now
I have to agree.
I think subcontracting it out can come out
cheaper for us than trying to do what
we're doing.
But that hard hand was obviously agreed
with.
I have a question.
Since this council is the one that
this council is the one that funds that
so we give them thirty thousand dollars
separate from the groundskeeper's salary
right so two questions for you are you
saying that this contracting is going to
come out of that thirty thousand that we
give the fair board no so we're still
going to pay yes
we're just gonna pay a different amount
from,
it's gonna change where the
groundskeeper's money is now,
you guys wanna put it to this
subcontracting, right?
Okay.
My second question is,
since this is a county position and it
was funded by the last council last year,
through december thirty first why does and
so we're not spending any extra money so
why does this position have to be
eliminated now and not at the end of
the year when the funding for it runs
out and us as a council who decides
where the money is spent then either does
not fund that position or to give him
an opportunity before winter to
have time to remove his personal items.
To give Mr.
Lee plenty of time before winter,
to remove his personal items is what the
fair board has stated.
I stated sixty days.
I've seen the agreement already.
I'm going to piggyback off of what Brad
just said there.
So I guess I'm confused too because if
we have budget hearings next week and
let's say that we're presented with
contracts showing how much it's going to
cost us and we as a council decide
to eliminate that position wouldn't he
still have ample time to move and
if they decide not to fund it next
year.
Because, I mean,
we're meeting tomorrow on budget hearings
for next year's budget.
I guess I'm kind of piggybacking off of
what he's saying to say I kind of
get where he's coming with that.
He'd still have ample time if we decide
not to refund it next year.
But that gives them time to bring us
quotes to say, hey,
is it going to be cheaper or not?
We already know it will be cheaper.
How do you know?
That's just your word.
I'm gonna pull Phil and Todd right here
and I'm gonna make a motion to table
this until the next meeting so we can
do an investigation on it.
Will y'all table stuff all the time on
me?
There's a motion on the floor.
Can't have two motions on the floor at
the same time.
I'm sorry.
Then do the right thing on the floor.
Phillip,
can you take back to your first motion
and then table it?
We have a motion and a second.
No, I will table it.
Just to appease everybody else.
But the standpoint is,
wherever we can save money,
I'm out to do.
And to be honest with you,
in all fairness,
I don't feel like you'll probably get the
satisfaction of the work to be completed.
And I think we will be throwing this
money away if we wait until the end
of the year.
And like Todd said,
he will have time to get his facilities
straightened out.
And I don't know for sure what the
fair board, I haven't seen any proposal,
how the fair board has the actual play
that needs to come into.
I do have a few questions myself of
who,
and this is something that needs to be
addressed to the fair board.
of how they plan on doing this.
Now,
am I going to pay somebody to do
something that I don't feel like will get
done?
This year,
and back when Rick Roberts was in as
a commissioner,
he jumped me quite a few times that
the grounds wasn't being addressed.
Spraying wasn't being done.
Mowing and weeding wasn't being done.
I'm all in favor of paying somebody to
do a job and I'm not going to
get into personnel matters,
but we are here to conserve and save
money.
We haven't tried to hide like everybody
goes on about.
We've discussed water,
which is not our business.
That's a city.
And in this case,
there's other things that have to be done.
I haven't seen a full report from the
fair board yet.
I don't know who's going to maintain the
buildings.
I don't know what their plan is.
I know what I'm hearing,
but I haven't been addressed.
I would like to have,
I will table for another month to get
some further discussion of what's being
done.
So there'll be a vote to pass or
not.
Hey, I do have one question.
If you're going to take this for one
more month, can there be a special time?
in meeting to where the citizens of
Washington County.
I'm not opposed to that.
We've tried night meetings.
Nobody shows up.
When's the last time you did that?
But yes, to answer you.
Do you have a motion?
And there is a second.
So now there needs to be a vote
if you're finished with your discussion.
All in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
Opposed, aye.
Oh, aye.
Okay, yeah,
and we will set a meeting you'll be
advised Will we as a council have quotes?
There was a groundskeeping stuff so we can
put it in our budget Will we get
quotes by the time we go over the
budget in the next three days?
I think we've got
based it on.
I don't know what the whole plan of
the fair board is.
I haven't talked to them.
I just thought it would be nice if
we knew what our bottom line was going
to be for that fund.
See this is questions I ask when this
all come about and I got pushed aside
and it gets keepin' told to me that
don't want to keep going in circles here
but fill me in on the information and
then this crap won't happen.
Okay.
Where'd it come from?
I didn't hear it.
We'll have to see what we got here.
I mean, I can't make a change.
Rick, I'm asking you to come forward.
Rick.
Thank you, Phil.
And I have one hundred percent agree with
you.
That's what I was pushing for.
Up there or back here?
I'm going to just get them.
What do we got?
Bring it on.
What do you got?
Where we at on the blacktop?
Community Crossings,
we're probably near the halfway point.
We're doing a little skip patching
county-wide.
We're finished with the county paving.
While I take that back,
we do have one road we skipped over
because of some construction,
but county paving is pretty well wrapped
up.
The crews are mowing and spraying,
and we're starting to ditch for next
year's Community Crossings roads.
Everything else is going pretty well
business as usual.
I thought she was going to try to
talk to me in the moment.
I was getting nervous.
Thank you, Ray.
Can I ask one quick question?
I know there's no public comment.
I know a lot of people want to
make a statement.
So I appreciate you made the comment that
possibly you'd have a public meeting or
round table for this later.
So I think that will,
I understand there's formal rules to speak
at these meetings,
but I'm not on the agenda.
My only question is, it's me personally,
individually, and I'm Tara Hunt,
not as a prosecutor.
my question as far as contracts and
potential bids for the groundskeeper and
where the money might lie of course we
all want what's best and cheapest
potentially best and cheap doesn't always
go together but best for the county what
i'd like to also ask that the fair
board put together something as far as uh
are there going to be surveillance in the
situation the groundskeeper is eliminated
will there be surveillance in that area
because there's hundreds of thousands of
dollars worth of
RVs and boats that people pay well for
to store all winter long,
myself and my husband included.
And that's one thing of having a
groundskeeper on site that I know as a
prosecutor keeps individuals away.
So that's another thing I'd like,
if this does go down the road to
where the Fairport ultimately gives
contracts and says they want to contract
this out, I would like to know,
or that question from the community,
because I've had these same questions
asked of me.
What's the surveillance going to be like?
What's the protections maybe for potential
people or getting into the barns?
Some of those are, of course,
open all the time.
So that's just a request I'd ask.
If you remember,
that's one of the reasons this was done
this way back when this first started.
We did have break ends up there and
at that point it was decided the city
couldn't patrol it.
At the time we didn't have access to
projectors or cameras over and it was
decided probably about two years after I
was in about ten years ago that the
best thing might be to put a personnel
up there.
But as you've seen,
we've had other problems that go on and
I agree with you and that will be
taken into consideration.
All things.
Thank you.
That being said, Paul Acker.
His face was already red.
Look at that.
I said his face was already red.
Look at that.
Good morning.
Quick update for you on the garage,
the office building.
It's ready for metal on the inside and
then continue on the rough end,
trying to get the same contractors working
on the McCants Garage to try to get
that knocked out by the end of the
week here.
If you've been by the job site you've
seen the McCants Garage start up,
they've got a lot of metal on the
roof, siding.
The outspouts gutters are coming in this
week.
They should be done framing that by the
end of the week completely and then we'll
turn it over to the contractors on the
inside.
Mother Nature's been pretty good to us so
we're probably going to install the septic
next week.
All the materials are there on site for
that installation.
and currently the electrician is doing the
underground rough-in for the electric and
the fiber optic lines.
He will probably be there until the end
of the week doing that.
I film all the trenches with gravel.
We did meet with Duke to discuss all
that to make sure everything was proper
for them to arrive.
We do have a couple work orders in
with Duke,
so I'm just waiting for that phone call
to say, hey, we're ready.
What about the,
you say the electric's there now?
The conduits are being put in right now.
Okay.
We met with Duke Energy out there I
think two weeks ago to discuss it all,
make sure everything is gonna be proper on
their end.
We've got the work orders in with Duke
right now.
They aren't just waiting for the phone
call for them to say they're gonna hook
it up.
Is the fuel tank's in?
Fuel tanks are in.
Not the tanks, but the pumps?
No, the pumps are not in.
I've talked to him and told him about
mid-September to come back and get
everything restarted, I guess.
What about the soul shed?
The same contractor that's doing the
mechanic's garage, when he gets done,
he'll probably have a break in there maybe
a week or so,
and then he'll come back and do the...
And salt and salt building.
Okay.
And then I see there's rebar up.
Is that going to be poured down or
is that going to be in a holding
pattern?
We're on a little holding pattern on that.
Okay.
And we have the two aggregate bins in
that will house the sand and the,
I want to say,
elevens or twelves that you all mix with
it.
So we've got that ready for you all.
Is the palace rock going to be stored
anywhere around that or is it going to
be put someplace else?
We'll have some riprap, fifty-threes,
and leavens in the bulkheads.
Okay.
Hurry.
That's it this morning.
Winter's coming next week.
But not today.
Thank you.
April?
Kevin?
Cameron?
Todd?
I'm good.
Tony?
Didn't spoke much, Pete.
I need a motion for adjournment.
I'll make that motion to adjourn.
Tony made a motion to adjourn.
Second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Motion to adjourn, council.
I'll make that motion.
Second.
Andrew, second.
Karen, all those in favor write in.
Thank you.