With its trunk open you may notify
Washington County.
Go to the parking lot.
I don't know after that one.
I'm not.
I didn't either.
Scary.
Okay, we'll call a meeting order.
Everybody please stand.
Say a pledge.
On it, would you lay the pledge?
Edward Preston,
would you lay this in a prayer?
I will.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation,
under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Bow your heads, please.
Most gracious Heavenly Father,
we do thank you for this day and
your blessings, Heavenly Father.
Father God,
just thank you that we have the freedom
to come into this meeting,
Heavenly Father.
Father God, just...
Clear all the heads, Heavenly Father,
that whatever is done in here is best
for the county.
And Father,
now just go with us in this meeting,
lead God and direct us in everything we
say and do.
In Jesus' name we ask it.
Amen.
Thank you.
I'd like to make an adjustment to the
agenda to reflect a contract that needs to
be ratified with HWC engineering for
services rendered for the new four H
extension building at the fairgrounds.
It's HWC.
Yes.
With that said,
I'll make a motion to approve the agenda
with that adjustment.
Second.
Twenty-second.
Tots made a motion.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
William Salem, am I saying that right?
No, you're fine.
Salyer.
I'm sorry.
No, you're fine.
You're fine.
Trust me.
I've heard it every which way but loose,
so that ain't going to save a deal
for me.
So you can live with that, right?
Yeah, I can live with it.
Would you come up forward to the desk,
please?
Sure.
Thank you.
So am I correct?
We got a miss address or what?
I don't really understand it.
Okay.
Here's the thing.
I didn't find this out until March the
twenty-first when I went in to give a
building inspection to come out and look.
Yeah.
Okay.
They had a work stop where it put
in July the tenth of two thousand
twenty-four that I never did receive.
It went to one address.
I hadn't lived there for five years.
And downstairs,
the auditor's office has one address.
The assessor's office has another address.
And they said at the building
commissioner's area that they pulled it
off of the tax card off the computer.
Well,
I get my taxes right here in town,
have been for the last five years,
where I live currently.
And I wasn't aware of anything until the
twenty-first.
Now they haven't, I don't,
I can't do anything.
I spent twenty thousand dollars on the
inside of this
to get this renovated,
and I'm just stuck now.
I can't do anything.
Jackson County RNC came and inspected my
property on March the third,
or March the twentieth.
Passed my inspection as far as my electric
and all that stuff goes,
but he called Travis,
and Travis said he needed to see it.
I go into the office,
and they said I got a stop order
on it.
They had a file there.
I said I wasn't aware of that.
I said if I'd have known what I
know now on March the twenty-first,
I wouldn't have stuck all this money into
it a year ago.
Well, six months ago.
And now I don't know what to do.
You know,
I'm trying to get this off without any
legal problems happening, you know,
to occur anymore.
The paperwork that they gave me,
it shows us three symbols.
that goes on global homes and goes on
modular homes and goes on HUD houses are
issued by the state to manufacturers that
produce them specifically.
They're not handed out to anybody but
them.
This was a custom built building for me
to convert into a living space just for
myself.
So let me ask you.
Sure.
Are you free today?
I'm free today.
Okay, as soon as this meeting's over,
can I get with him?
Sure can.
Let's do that.
Okay, okay.
I mean, I mean...
i'm just going to say this one thing
and then i'll i'll get out of your
guys's hair no that's okay okay i have
a picture of a person just living in
a twelve by twelve storage building not
more than a mile away from here i've
been living in this building since okay i
have a sixteen by forty
that I can't even walk into now because
of this stock worker.
I mean, I'm scared to,
so I'll just leave it at that.
I mean, I have pictures of whatever, so.
That's after the meeting.
Okay, okay.
We'll get this straightened out.
Okay, thank you very much for your time,
sir.
Thank you.
Gregory
I got troubles.
Say it again.
Okay.
How are you this morning?
I'm good.
How are you?
Trying to get over a cold.
Sorry to hear that.
Yeah, you're on.
I represent Washington County Farmers
Market.
As you may or may not know,
we operate every Saturday starting in May.
out of the parking lot in front of
the Justice Center.
We would like your permission to put a
porta potty out there at our location this
season.
Currently our only rest facilities are
inside the Sheriff's Department.
I did talk to the sheriff about this.
Do you know you do have access to
go in the jail and have a clean
facility rather than a port-a-can?
I'm sorry?
You can go to the jail,
go in the front door there.
Yeah.
Just walk right in the door and use
the facilities in there without messing
with a nasty port-a-can.
Yeah, that's what we have been doing.
but it would be more convenient for a
lot of our members who are a little
bit older and whatnot.
It's quite a walk from the parking lot
to the sheriff's door and then also to
the back of the building to get it
to the restaurant that we could use.
Where are you wanting to put a board
cam now?
Along the edge of the parking lot over
by the Farm Bureau building.
I'm afraid that's going to get us in
trouble.
Well,
I'd have to check with Farm Bureau and
see if they're okay with that.
Okay.
Can I have your phone number?
My phone number?
Yes, eight one two.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Just give it to me, please.
Okay,
eight one two six two zero three four
zero three.
Zero what?
Three.
One more time on that last, zero?
Zero three.
Okay.
Let's check with Farm Bureau and make sure
they'd be okay with it.
Brent,
do you have anything to say on this?
Nothing other than they've been using the
bathrooms inside the facility there.
We don't have a problem with them coming
in and using the bathrooms.
I would prefer that there not be a
port-a-pot out in the parking lot just for
the fact that it could create issues.
People turning their door in the parking
lot creating issues out in the parking lot
that we don't normally have to deal with.
And I, along with you,
would like to talk to the neighbors
the business next door to see if they
would be offended by that because that
that would be putting next to their
business out there too and would like to
get their their input on that as well
but they're more than welcome to continue
using the bathrooms there at the sheriff's
department excuse me i have a question is
this uh this something that obviously
you're not going to move it every week
right you know you'd want to leave no
it would be placed up there for the
season yeah
Having it delivered every single week
would cost another seventy-five dollars
for every delivery.
Yeah,
well until the day comes that somewhere in
Salem we can have a really nice facility
for a farmer's market and have restrooms.
Maybe someday when we hit the lottery.
I know a lot of communities even our
size have
have farmers markets facilities.
That's one of my goals down the road
a few years, but it takes money.
But we appreciate you guys being there.
We'll see if we can get something
resolved.
How's it working out there?
Well, it used to be at Tavaro Grounds.
I know it was limited on people finding
it.
Is it working pretty good out there now?
It is working better because we have a
higher visibility.
Yeah.
Yeah, we did fairly well last year.
Good.
You're growing, aren't you?
Yes.
Let me get with them,
and I'll call you back on this.
Okay.
Appreciate your time.
Thank you.
Hayden Minton.
Morning.
How are y'all?
Good.
Where do you live at?
Three Eleven, East Market Street.
East Market?
Yes, my name is Adrian.
I do live in town,
so this doesn't cover me,
but what I will say is I serve
as the chairperson for the Washington
County Democratic Party.
I've had several concerned local citizens
come to me regarding the plan commission,
so I wanted to speak on behalf of
the party just to y'all, to you straight.
Okay.
Yes, please.
Thank you.
So, as you know,
the Planning Commission may have up to
five members with no more than three
representing the same political party.
There have been questions raised regarding
individuals being identified as the
Democrats on the Commission,
raising concerns about whether these
appointments would align with the
requirements outlined in Indiana Code.
I'd like to just say,
as far as I'm aware, under Indiana Code,
there are two ways to establish party
affiliation.
either voting in the two most recent
primary elections in Indiana where the
person cast a ballot for the party they
claim to be,
or certification by the chairperson of the
county party confirming the individual's
affiliation.
I believe it is essential that these
statutory guidelines are followed to
maintain the integrity of the local
governments in the Planning Commission,
As you consider the reappointments to the
Planning Commission,
and as a county chairperson,
I'm happy to work with you all to
make sure that if someone is being
identified under the Democratic Party,
making sure that that state law is being
followed.
Doing so would help preserve the public
trust and uphold the principles
established by the state law.
And I did have my contact information with
the auditor.
Interesting.
I would be interested in I would if
you could,
could you get a list together of maybe
I don't care, two,
three or a dozen people who would be
interested in serving their community on
the plan commission people in your party?
Yes.
Hopefully qualified people who who might
have some knowledge of, you know,
property and
kind of know the ways of the world
and have some experience in in some part
of uh in dealing with with land issues
and things like that yeah that'd be great
much appreciated you just either send that
to the auditor or just drop it off
here at the auditor's office and be more
than happy to look at the list thank
you thank you thank you thank you
Lucy Britton.
That's me.
That's you?
That's me.
Where you live at, Lucy?
Yes, good morning.
I'm so happy to be here with the
weather.
It's going to be so amazing this week.
So I would like to start out just
by actually reading something that Adam
DeFore posted on Facebook,
which I think is absolutely phenomenal.
He said,
a critical decision for the Planning
Commission is on the table in Washington
County Board of Commissioners,
and you have the option to do one
of two things.
Option number one is to reappoint all the
same people that were on the planning
commission before, provided, of course,
they are eligible for the appointment.
And option number two is to take the
opportunity of the planning commission
board being mostly vacant,
because we do apparently have one person
that might be legal on the board at
this point, and restore public trust.
There's a lot of public trust that's been
lost in this whole debacle.
And we want to find people that are
committed and capable of doing the work
that needs to be done.
Option one would end the cycle of
distrust, scrutiny, confrontation,
and public outcry.
After the total debacle of the recent
proposed zoning ordinance and the chaos
that ensued,
the vast majority of people in Washington
County are not likely going to ever have
trust or confidence in those members
because they were previously illegal.
So a band-aid to just have them take
a oath office and act like everything is
okay is just simply not okay.
Now, option two, of course,
is to move forward with people that are
eligible and legal for the Planning
Commission.
I say that there's a third option,
and the third option is to restore
freedom,
the freedom over the property that people
buy,
and to put the freedom back in the
individual hands of the property owners so
that they don't have to worry about the
store thing again.
Now I realize that that's probably too
much to ask for.
So the road to hell is paved with
good intentions.
The Planning Commission operated illegally
for years,
and I hope that anyone negatively affected
would find full redress of their
grievances in court,
which of course falls back on the
taxpayers to pay for those actions.
We don't want plans by the few.
This is a miracle.
We should be making our own individual
plans over our own lives,
and to be left alone, unblessed,
to live our lives.
So the most that I can hope for
to come out of this debacle is that
we would simply be left alone as property
owners.
If we're not trespassing on anyone else,
I personally subscribe to what's known as
the NAF, the non-aggression principle.
So I don't believe in committing any kind
of force or fraud against anyone.
And unfortunately,
by using the power of this body,
people are being forced to do things they
don't want to do and being charged for
it.
So I would ask you to do the
right thing
and dissolve the Planning Commission and
let the single member that might actually
be legal that's on it right now,
let that person go back to their own
life.
Now, Aiden just mentioned,
and you talked with him about putting
somebody on the Planning Commission from
the Democrat Party.
There are more parties than that in this
world.
I'm a libertarian,
and I would like to submit myself as
someone that should be on the Planning
Commission.
I've been a mortgage broker since
I ran the largest real estate investing
association in Indiana.
I was on the board for nearly ten
years.
We had three hundred and fifty members
when I left.
I'm an accomplished real estate investor.
I've dealt with a lot of different
situations with planning and zoning
commissions and with getting things done
for the individual who's going to be
there.
So I would submit myself for that position
as well.
I think I've reached my three minutes just
about now.
Thank you.
I need approval for the minutes of the
March eighteenth meeting.
One correction on there.
Something said about a billy goat or
something in there.
I just want to get that marked out
and corrected.
And what Rick was stating or something.
I don't think he said anything about a
billy goat in your statement,
did you Rick?
I do not believe so.
All right, thank you.
Okay.
So that being said,
do I have a motion for approval of
the minutes?
Motion to approve the minutes.
Do I have a second?
As corrected or?
As corrected.
As corrected, I'll second.
All right, all in favor say aye.
Aye.
All right.
Approval of claims and payroll.
Motion to approve.
Second.
TODD MADE A MOTION.
TONY SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
HEALTH DEPARTMENT DISCUSSION.
NO.
MOST PROPOSED RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING.
I believe that was the motion that was
tabled at the last meeting and our
attorneys were going to investigate that
April and I think Lisa also had been
on vacation last week and naturally when
we're accused of doing something,
accused of doing something illegal then
it's up to our attorneys that's why we
pay them to make sure that if there
is something that is in error that it's
corrected so i'll make a motion to table
that until we hear from lisa fleming our
attorney for the plan commission and april
our attorney for the commissioners okay
Paul?
I've got a motion to table that again.
I'll second that.
I'll just talk to Lisa.
Paul?
Aye.
All in favor?
Opposed?
Aye.
Tony opposed.
Good morning, Paul.
Are you ready for the MOU for HWC?
That was the amendment that Mr.
Ewan made today.
Is that what you want to do?
Yep.
One second, Paul.
Okay.
You want to read that or are you
just going to propose it?
If you just want to read the motion,
no.
yeah i would like to make a motion
to approve the contract with hwc to guide
us through the legal aspects and the
engineering for the fairgrounds building
board this is a i'm sorry that was
a motion there's a second then i can
add some information so are you making
that motion yes i am
Second.
Tony second.
All in favor say aye.
I have some comments just briefly.
This is a memorandum of understanding
agreement with HWC Engineering.
They will be providing general engineering
consulting services for the fairgrounds
project.
This is on an as needed basis.
The hourly rates for reimbursements are
included in the attachment to this
agreement.
Any other questions?
Ready for a vote?
We just did.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Try this again.
Okay.
I'd like to start with kind of talking
about the permits out there to give you
kind of a heads up where we're at.
Phase one,
which included the septic permit that has
been sent to the State Department of
Health, Julia Hayes,
which I think is over there.
She's a Washington County resident.
She received it and they gave us a
tentative kind of approval date of May the
second.
So once that happens,
then we'll be able to get the onsite
sewer system installed and put in.
Then on kind of the phase two buildings
which were the mechanics garage and the
salt buildings and the mixed salt
buildings.
The engineer is submitting the revisions
to the mechanics garage.
to take care of the fire code issues
that we were having with the original
drawing.
They will be submitted this year,
or this week, I'm sorry,
for review up at the state and hopefully
approval.
They may come back with a comment or
two,
but hopefully it's under review and
approval.
And then last week we did receive the
full construction design release for the
mixed salt building and the salt building.
out there.
So we got the rebar out there for
it.
We're tying steel right now for it.
Didn't really want to dig a big hole
for all the rains to flood,
but we are tying steel to get ready
for right after these rains to get that
building started up in the air.
spoke to the electrical contractor,
Kevin Holes,
who's the manager of electric.
He is going to be out there starting
tomorrow, what he told me,
and trying to work inside on the sign
shed,
getting that all roughed in and ready,
and also on the
contractor parks plumbing they gave me a
tentative start date on april the seventh
which is next monday might move into next
next tuesday but monday or tuesday be out
there to start on the sign shed plumbing
and also the mechanics garage plumbing so
we can get that one ready for the
design release just for clarification when
do you think a salt building will be
done uh
The actual salt building or the mixed?
Or both?
Salt.
Okay, just the salt.
I would guess right now you're probably
talking July, mid-July,
somewhere around there.
When do you normally get your salt?
We stock up through the summer,
so we won't order more until probably
spring when we use what we have.
Okay.
and I believe I'm right with this,
Rick met with Ken Temple yesterday,
and our on-site guy,
and kind of tweaked the layout of the
salt building, salt storage building,
and I think kind of agreed,
and also got the drag lane between the
pre-oil shed and the salt building kind of
established.
Yeah,
we're having an issue with the northern
line kind of running out of room there
and trying to figure out how to get
things to fit in.
We're kind of tweaking it just a little
bit.
septic tanks for the office and the shop
area, both using the same electric field?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Yeah,
the design flow did not demand two systems
for the State Department of Health,
so both of them will pump into,
actually the mechanics garage will pump
into the holding tank of the office,
and then it'll all go over to the
field together.
And the rock around the building?
I'm sorry.
Is the rock done around the building where
they can get in and set their other
pole?
No, I still need to do that.
Okay.
Get that little lane in there for Duke
Energy.
Okay.
Yeah, I still need to do that.
Okay.
Anything else?
That's kind of the highlights.
You heard we're supposed to get a big
rain tomorrow, didn't you?
Yes, I did.
of one of the reasons the electrician's
off.
He was supposed to start yesterday,
but he's like,
I need to get this outside stuff done
so I can get the inside stuff done
later this week.
Well,
you can buy fish for the pond out
front.
Not have the water.
It's not stocked yet.
Thank you, Paul.
Rick.
I have just a few minor updates for
you here.
Firstly, we placed our electronic stopper,
excuse me,
electronic speed limit signs on Boyle
Road.
That's probably our highest traffic and
most serious accident road,
biggest number of serious accidents.
So we're going to try something new and
we've received quite a bit of
positive feedback from the residents out
there so i think that's something we can't
put on every road but to try something
new it seems to be working so far
once they get used to them in a
few months i don't know how beaver right
now seems to be helping or new yeah
and they're set at which has the speed
limit out there and if you go or
above it starts flashing at you and
everything seems to be functioning
properly if they're solar powered pretty
well self-maintained hopefully maintenance
free
as you stated you know we've got a
big rain coming the crews are clearing any
culverts and ditches that we know are an
issue trying to get prepared as much as
we can getting our flood signs getting
everything situated hopefully mother
nature is nice to us but we'll be
as ready as we can be and finally
we've advertised our twenty twenty five
dash one community crossings
It's in the paper, it's on the website.
We've contacted five contractors to make
sure they're aware of it,
and that should be bids coming in,
and we'll open on the fifteenth,
so usually they wait until that fourteenth
to submit the bids,
and if Kyra heads up,
they'll be on the way to you.
We'll open those on the fifteenth.
Fourteenth, fifteenth.
Okay.
Yep.
That's all I've got for you.
Thank you, Rick.
Yep.
I would just like to say one thing.
We're not going to make it official today,
but on this four H building at the
fairgrounds,
as I had mentioned with this HWC contract,
this is part of the selection committee.
How this will work is there will be
two representatives from the council,
and I've already got a couple volunteers,
Mr. Davidson, who's here today.
I want to thank him.
And Todd Armstrong,
one of the other councilmen,
and along with myself and the growth
partnership director former growth
partnership director Angie Buchanan and
then the non-voting member who will make
the decision on the final bid once we
get them all in would be a gentleman
by the name of Tim Hunt who has
no vote just simply there to make sure
that we go through the scoring sheet
And this is done in a fair manner,
so everyone has an opportunity not only to
bid on it,
but we will be scrutinizing the bids to
make sure that we get the most for
our money on this new project.
And I want to again thank Mr. Davidson,
Mr.
Armstrong for being on that selection
committee.
We'll vote on that officially at the next
meeting.
Thank you.
Present.
No, not yet.
Can't hear.
I need a motion.
You got anything?
Nope.
Okay.
I'll make a motion to adjourn.
Second.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.