How you doing?
Love,
I didn't see you over there with that
pink shirt.
You better get your eyes checked.
You didn't see me.
blend in with the chairs.
Okay, let's call the meeting to order.
Everybody please stand, say a pledge,
and have a prayer.
Rick, can you lead us in a pledge?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Let's bow our heads, please.
Most gracious Heavenly Father,
we thank you for this day and thank
you for Jesus who died on the cross
so we could have life eternal.
And Father,
just thank you for a commissioner's
meeting and Father,
let us just go into it with open
minds and do what's right for the county
and just be with us and just thank
everyone for coming out,
the show for support.
And it's going now into this meeting with,
in Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Thank you.
I make a motion to approve the agenda.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Who's he, Britton?
April,
I'll trust you to do the timer for
me.
Can you all hear me?
All right.
Coming to you this morning to talk about
Randy Lee once again.
For those of you who don't know,
he had a heart attack on Friday and
ended up in emergency surgery.
Apparently had a ninety percent blockage.
So that's what we call a widow winner.
He's very lucky to be alive.
You know, thank God for the good surgeons.
So for those of you who have been
following Randy's plight,
Obviously, the stress has now gotten him.
Just before the last meeting,
his wife took a fall and she ended
up, I guess,
with a concussion and ended up in the
hospital.
So with that said,
let's not stress this poor man out
anymore.
Every time I've gone to the county
fairgrounds, they've looked great to me.
I've gone to the four-H functions there
with my kids.
You know, the buildings looked great.
The bathrooms were functional and clean.
So it does seem to be a little
bit of political backlash that's going on
with Randy.
So I just want to say I stand
in support with him.
something else that recently happened is
that the county planning commission
meeting was changed from september second
to september ninth at six thirty so please
take note of that it's not this evening
but a week from this evening now what
disturbs me about that is i've been
appointed to that planning commission and
no one on the commission has notified me
still to this very minute that there was
any sort of a change so if i
being on the planning commission as an
appointee do not know when the meeting is
or when it's been changed i think that's
that really reflects
A very big lack of communication,
and I think that that's a problem.
I'm curious if anybody knows when the
meeting was posted downstairs on the
board,
and if it was posted in accordance with
the amount of notices required by Indiana
statute for the citizens.
So that's something that,
does anybody know when that was posted
downstairs?
I don't know.
I just read it yesterday.
I think it was.
Yeah, I don't know who told Rebecca White,
but it was her post on Facebook.
Somebody mentioned to me, hey,
did you know the commission meeting's
changing?
I'm like, well, I'm on the commission.
I don't know.
They said, well, Becky White posted it,
so I found it, and she posted it.
I do know through the confusion,
I think Todd did test positive for COVID.
And that's probably, I'm guessing here.
Yeah.
Because I just read it yesterday.
Well, he is the president,
so that would make sense.
But it seemed like maybe Lisa would make
that.
I can't answer you on that,
except I would say that's probably got
something to do with it.
Okay.
Well,
we want to make sure that it was
posted on time because it's super
important.
We're all in the fishbowl here.
We want to make sure that we're doing
the right thing.
And speaking of rights,
one of the things that I want to
just briefly touch on,
because I know my time's coming to an
end,
is the rights that you have recognized by
God because we were lucky enough to be
born into this country.
We have the right to life.
We have the right to liberty.
We have the right to pursuit of happiness.
And so if you have the right to
life, of course,
that's your personal body.
It extends to you and the things that
you do with it.
By the way,
I pro-life the unborn baby in your uterus
is not your DNA,
so let's just get that clear.
That baby has the right to its own
life.
You don't have the right to terminate
that.
So beyond that,
you have the right to what your body
produces, which is your labor.
So when you are taxed by the government,
you're nothing more than an economic
slave,
and they are stealing that money from you,
which is your labor,
which is an extension of your personal
body.
You have the right to all of that
in spite of what government says.
Second,
with regards to your property rights,
the rights of the property that you have
accumulated with your labor,
is second only to those rights in your
body so see me at the planning commission
next tuesday at six thirty support us we
need your health citizens because those
those rights are being abrogated thank you
thank you that's me
My name is Darryl McGuffey.
I'm a resident here in Washington County.
I'm a business owner and pretty much a
lifetime member or resident of Indiana.
The reason why I'm coming here today is
to ask for some kind of compensation or
reimbursement for all the road work that
has been going on down in front of
the Smokin' Hogs restaurant.
It's a hard answer.
I've talked to Floyd County,
I've talked to different cities,
and April suggested this morning
One of the things is basically,
I talked to the mayor up here and
through the mess we've all drove through
and everything like that, moving on.
It's a touchy situation.
I've been in business myself and sometimes
it's a struggle and you don't need no
help like that.
But then on the other hand,
I can understand
When counties are limited to the resources
we've got, you can't start one.
If we did,
we'd be going all the way down the
line.
I'm not trying to be hard,
but have you checked with your insurance
company to see?
I know what you're saying.
I shouldn't have to turn it into an
insurance company,
because I understand the work had to be
done.
But at the same time,
everybody that was working didn't have to
use my parking lot to park all their
vehicles in where nobody could get in.
I didn't know they were doing that.
Yes.
The stoplight that they put in,
they put it right in the middle of
the entrance, right off of Main Street,
where nobody could get in.
And then the very last day,
I had said something from day one about
moving it towards the corner so it would
open that opening up.
People would not turn in there because the
tongue of that stoplight was sticking out
six foot.
And they were afraid to turn in there
or they were gonna be hit.
They were afraid they were gonna hit it
with that tongue sticking out.
And like I said,
said something from day one about them
moving that down so it would open that
opening up.
And all I got was,
you need to talk to this person.
No,
you're the one that's in charge of this
project.
You're the one I need to talk to.
Finally,
the very last day when they got done
doing the striping on the roadway and
painting the curves,
One of the gentlemen went over and pulled
the tongue out of the cotton picking
stoplight to open that opening up.
Now why couldn't that have been done prior
to that?
Rick?
First off, I'd like to apologize to Mr.
McGuffey.
I know none of us like detours or
road constructions and aggravations,
including myself.
None of us.
It's just sort of a necessary evil,
if you will.
You'll see there,
that's a map of Main Street.
The X's mark the barricades and the
stoplights that were installed.
And you'll see the arrows,
that's the second entrance to all the
businesses.
The original plan for the bridge project
was to barricade the road and close it,
and have a detour on High Street,
and come out by the old cheese factory
down there.
And we thought that would have too
negative an impact on the businesses,
and by having the stoplights,
you still had a flow of traffic and
anybody who wanted to get in there still
could.
In Mr. McGuffey's case,
he still had the same amount of entrance
as the entire shopping center across from
KFC.
One entrance was closed,
but one entrance was left open at both
locations.
So we did,
it was a cost of about five thousand
dollars to install those stoplights as
opposed to just going with barricades.
So as far as that,
I feel like the county kind of went
above and beyond what we would have had
to have done to minimize the damage.
Rick, let me ask you something here.
Where am I at?
If you look, dead center's the bridge.
The bridge is dead center.
It's got two cars crossing over on the
picture.
The X above that would be the shopping
center.
Were people parking in his parking lot?
If they were,
they would have been the contractors.
I'm not, you might check with Paul.
I don't know where they parked their
vehicles, but it was a hired out job.
We did it and it would have been
the contractor's vehicle,
not the county's.
Because there's no reason we should have
ever had the second entrance blocked.
I'm not saying it didn't get blocked by
somebody else.
It shouldn't have been anything to do with
our project.
When they were coming in,
they were parking halfway up the hill
blocking where nobody could get in.
I had to park in front of my
van in order to be able to get
in.
And then I had to come out and
say something to the gentleman to move
their vehicles so people could get in if
they wanted to.
That would have been the contractors.
I'm not pointing fingers or naming names
on who it was or nothing.
I'm just saying that it was blocked off
where nobody could get in.
And this has put a tremendous
financial burden on me right now.
I'm going to be doing good if I
can pull this out and keep going.
As far as the entrance there being blocked
off,
we couldn't have traffic coming in behind
the traffic light into the work zone.
It's a safety concern.
Like I said, had we closed it
The barricades would have probably been
placed thirty feet from each end of the
bridge to allow your room to work and
get your trucks in there and the concrete
trucks.
So that would completely shut that down.
And the traffic coming west on old sixty
would have had this entrance blocked
probably all day long every day as they
detoured.
So we thought this would by far minimize
the damage.
Daryl,
let me do some more research on this.
Wouldn't you want me to check back with
you?
Well,
let me talk to some different ones here,
okay?
You know where I live at, don't you?
No.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you, Rick.
Did you have anything to say?
No.
Mr. Sullivan.
Good morning.
How are you?
I'm here to speak on behalf of Randy
Lee.
Randy has been the groundskeeper for
fifteen years now.
He's never been reprimanded and he's
always done dedicated service.
He takes care of the grounds,
the buildings, real setups, tear downs,
maintenance, checking the buildings,
leaks, heat, air, everything like that.
He helps with cleaning snow.
He helps up here at the courthouse
whenever it's needed.
I don't understand how we're gonna save
money by eliminating his job and hiring
Bowen Crew.
Do we have any paper bids on that
yet,
other than the verbal that Todd talked
about a couple weeks ago?
I can't answer you on that one either.
Right, just want to get on record,
that's being asked.
And then who will be responsible for all
the other jobs that Brandy does throughout
the year?
Because Todd had mentioned at the last
meeting
getting bear board members and people to
help up there,
it's getting harder and harder.
So if we eliminate the position of
everything that Randy does,
who's going to take over those
responsibilities?
Another question I know you cannot answer,
but still, I just want it in record.
And then according to Randy's termination
letter,
his position was supposed to be eliminated
on August twenty-third.
Well then, on the twenty-fifth,
a list of stuff was brought to Randy
to have done before the race this past
Friday and the truck and tractor rules.
And he put in over fifty hours trying
to get all that done for the race.
And so,
if his job was supposed to be done
on the twenty-third,
why was that brought to the impact of
the fact to get all this stuff done
for a race?
Once again,
something else I know you cannot answer.
But then another thing I want to know
is how can a non-elected board eliminate a
county position?
That is a screwy situation.
This whole thing has been.
Exactly.
The fair board runs the commissioners on
the fairgrounds.
The fair board runs the fairgrounds.
They run it.
You're steering the fairgrounds.
during a fair.
And then all the other events,
it's pretty well left up to the
commissioners of what we've done.
And I'm coming in half track because I
don't normally said all this and I'm not
making excuses.
There's certain things I don't get privy
to.
And this is one of them.
But when this come up the other day,
when the first come about based on the
recommendation,
that the fair board wants to run it
in a different way.
I think more stuff needs to be brought
to life before that position is
eliminated,
because I don't think it's fair or just
how it's being done.
And if it's being brought across to save
the county money,
show us that it's going to save us
money,
because nothing's been produced that's
going to save us money.
And then one other thing I would ask,
in which Todd's not here,
But with a police investigation being
current in between Tollett and Randy Lee,
I don't think he should be able to
vote on anything that has to do with
Randy's job.
Because I believe it would be a conflict
of interest.
I'm going to have to do some further
investigation also.
Thank you.
Misty.
I can answer your question about the
twenty-third.
I got with Todd and seen after the
last commissioners meeting we voted not to
do like the groundskeeper job at that time
so I got with Todd and basically said
I'll take charge and go up there and
have Randy do whatever and I called Rose
and let her know and everything's been
running smoothly since then.
I see Tom back there shaking his head
yes and
And that's what happened on that
situation.
So everything got suspended for a bit
until we can work through the unintended
consequences and all that good stuff.
So there is a lot of questions to
be answered.
And I mean,
I just don't see or understand getting rid
of a good employee that has dedicated
time, money,
energy to a job that he's done well.
that he would get up and do at
all hours of the day whenever the need
was given.
And I don't see other people that's gonna
get up and do it where he lives
either.
Thank you, Misty.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Okay.
Approval of minutes, August nineteenth,
twenty-twenty-five.
Do you have a motion?
Did that correction get made with what
Rick brought up?
Yes.
Okay.
I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.
I'll second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Approval of claims and payroll.
I'll make a motion to approve the claims
and payroll.
I'll second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Play of four dice.
Eighty-eight.
Uh,
NDOT has requested that we have a
resolution appointing an individual to,
uh,
be over the Americans with Disabilities
Act.
This is,
we have to do this in order to
receive community crossings.
Um, so,
Malia Fordyce has been in charge of it
and... She will do...
I have a motion to keep Malia Fordyce.
I'll make that motion.
Tony's made a motion.
I'll second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Public hearing on the ADA transition plan.
No.
We just did that.
Elimination of groundskeeper at the
fairgrounds.
I'll be honest,
I'd suggest it be tabled again until
everybody's here.
I feel there's a bunch of unintended
consequences that definitely need to look
at before any decision is being made on
this.
Okay, until next month, or next week,
two weeks.
Okay?
Yep.
Highway Project.
Rick?
There's Paul.
I didn't know if he was coming or
not.
I'm sorry.
Good morning.
Quick update.
If you've been out there,
you've seen the mechanic's garage go up,
siding, roofing.
And I think the gutters have been
installed, but not the downspout.
I can't remember on the downspout.
This week they will bring the insulator
in.
It's probably a three or four days
insulation job.
So they'll take over inside there this
week.
And next week the graver will be back
in for putting on the metal siding on
the interior of the walls.
So that will release the electrician,
plumber, HVAC guy,
get the mechanics going.
They will also be installing metal on the
interior of the office,
which again will release everybody to do
those walls.
And then once they come back,
we'll just continue them between the
mechanics garage office and the
mixed salt and salt fittings so we'll just
kind of have them hopping around there
flooring for the office has been ordered
we just haven't put it in yet didn't
want to get trumped on but we probably
will get that put in doors are ordered
again we'll just we don't want them to
get too beat up before opening
Semic system,
we started on it this morning.
Probably take three or four days to get
that in.
Spoke to the electrician on the site.
They got another,
probably the rest of this week before they
finish the fiber optic and the electric
conduits.
It's pretty rocky out there.
So they're having a little bit of
difficulty digging.
And then I'll be meeting Duke today at
ten o'clock.
on two different jobs that I'll be meeting
them today on the power front there for
the highway garage.
I think it's that two poles,
the final two poles.
Correct.
Two poles when they got a ground
transformer behind the truck link to it.
Did water line, what we had on that?
Installed.
Water line's installed,
gas line is installed.
We gotta put the risers up for the
gas service.
We still gotta go down to one thirty-five,
but everything on site has been put in.
I understood the pole lamp behind the gas
pumps had been ordered.
Talk to Kevin about that.
I don't know if it has been ordered.
He said he had ordered it.
Oh, okay.
I don't know how long it would take.
So when are they expected to have electric
on the property?
That's what I'm talking to Duke about.
Today at ten.
Okay.
Septic line,
how long do you expect that to be?
Three or four days.
And the bathroom line,
is it run from the shop area to
the subject?
Yes,
both lines are ran out of the office
and out of the chemistry.
Okay.
They're already tied into the tanks.
And the steel that's on the roof on
the inside of the shop area and the
office area?
Will be next week.
Okay.
Bill got everything with the internet and
all that?
And the office, yes.
He probably still has to do some things
here at the mechanics shop.
Yeah.
Will they be on the intercom between point
A and point B or is that going
to be a phone?
I don't know.
Yeah,
I think we're just running the condos with
fiber optic.
I'm assuming there will be some
communication back and forth.
I'll talk to Bill about that.
Okay.
Anything else?
That's it.
Hurry up.
Yes, sir.
Winter's coming.
Before we know it.
This week.
Before we know it.
Thank you.
Rick.
All right, in the last year or two,
we've had several calls about the
intersection of Radcliffe Road and Highway
one fifty.
There's actually been a semi turnover
there.
It's where they deliver to the new Ace
Hardware.
And we've started the process working with
HWC, checking on get permits with MDOT.
They're going to design the intersection
and see what we can do there.
Just wanted to kind of inform you,
we've got the ball rolling.
It'll be a long process and I'm sure
if we get lucky,
it'll be middle of twenty six before that
starts construction.
Community crossings were about three
quarters of the way done.
Probably two more weeks of good weather
and we'll be wrapping up.
Been out looked at and everything's
looking good.
We're doing a nice job.
Design and build of bridge number
thirty-nine has been advertised.
The bids are due October seventh.
So Kyra might make a note there.
We'll have some bids rolling in to open
at the October seventh meeting.
We went ahead and had six tracks of
loads of salt delivered last week,
just to kind of get us ready.
You know, it's a little early,
but sometimes that stuff gets hard to get
if you wait until the last minute,
so that's a start that won't be near
enough to get us through.
That's probably fifty thousand dollars,
so a pretty good chunk to get you
started.
How long will it take to come in?
Right now,
if you get a jump on it,
you can get it within a week.
If you call,
you'll have it within a week.
There's times in December, January,
you can call them if you get it,
maybe a month,
but you may not get it.
So is it going out there or out
there?
Out here.
Out there?
Yeah.
Okay.
And that's about all I've got for you,
unless you've got any questions.
Is all the arc paving done?
We've got two.
We've got a little subdivision we're going
to do, and we still have a road.
It's kind of on the back side of
one of the community crossings roads and
we didn't want to cross paths.
So we just let them get their part
finished and then we're going to pull our
part out.
So we have one that's like one point
two miles and then a little bit of
skip patching to do.
For the most part it's wrapped up,
nothing more serious.
So is mowing wrapping up or still doing
it?
It's slowing down.
The rush came, you know,
that's roadside mowing.
It's starting to slow down a little bit.
The brush cutting,
it rained so much this year,
just every road.
Your brush cut early needs a brush cut
again.
Hard to keep up with.
So how are we setting on these track
holes?
They did okay?
Yeah, but we have four minis.
Three of them are new.
One of them's traded and will be saved
for the bridge crew.
It may need replaced in five years.
But the other ones, they're good.
They'll be around another ten.
I see one going south, I think,
this morning.
I didn't know.
They're a pretty handy machine.
We always relied on the gray dolls to
do the ditching,
but they're a super duper machine,
but they're a mechanical nightmare to try
to work on and keep going,
and they're just big and awkward and block
the road, so there's pros and cons.
But I think the Mings are a lot
better fit for us.
Appreciate the hard work.
All right, anything to let me know?
Well organized department over here.
Thank you, Rick.
Yes,
so earlier we mentioned the public hearing
for the ADA Transition Plan.
We have,
the county has an ADA Transition Plan
available for public to review if they
would like to before it's adopted at the
next hearing.
GREG BRUDNICKI Okay.
Governor?
GREG BRUDNICKI I don't have anything.
GREG BRUDNICKI I don't believe so.
President, you or Bubba?
No, I don't.
No, sir.
Do you have a motion for adjournment?
I'll make a motion to adjourn.
I'll second.
All in favor say aye.
Aye.
All right.